Noone’s Complaining, MTA says

Tuesday, January 18th, 2011

According to what thay said to WNYC, no one has complained about the changes to the F&G  that went into effect yesterday:

The Metropolitan Transportation Authority said it hasn’t received any complaints from F and G train riders in Brooklyn after big service changes went into effect on Monday.

The construction was set to start a week ago but was postponed because of the snow storm. The subway service changes will be in effect through May.

The Manhattan-bound F and the Queens-bound G will bypass the 15th St. station and the Fort Hamilton Parkway Station in Windsor Terrace, due to a construction project that’s expected to last through May. The Manhattan-bound F is also skipping the Smith-9th St. station.

That means longer commutes for some riders who must take a subway train deeper into Brooklyn before switching to Manhattan- and Queens-bound F and G trains. Last spring, the MTA eliminated bus routes serving those neighborhoods.

That’s odd, because our Councilmember Brad Lander has been been complaining quite loudly, and we completely support his and many of our neighbors in petitioning for bus service extensions like sending B68 all the way to the 7th Avenue stop of the F train in Park slope.

“We think one alternative is extending a bus line to the nearby train station that’s at Eighth Avenue and Ninth Street, and that would give riders an option about what to do,” said Gene Russianoff of the Straphangers’ Campaign told NY1.

Brad Lander has a petition online at BradLander.com, and he’s hopeful that “the MTA will listen to the riders who will be so inconvenienced by this necessary work, and do something to help address frustration and make it better in the months to come.”

    - Liena

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    • http://cantaloupealone.blogspot.com/ Naomi

      The best thing about this fiasco is the right to gripe with everyone and anyone in the neighborhood about the MTA.

      To be honest I took the train and arrived in Manhattan 2-5 minutes behind schedule. Not a big deal.

    • Liena

      Here’s someone on the NYTimes blog: http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/01/18/notes-from-a-delayed-commute/?partner=rss&emc=rss who’s not quite as happy.

    • liam

      I personally wouldn’t bother with the 68 extension as a solution, although I think it’s a good idea and should be done anyway. That bus is notoriously unreliable.

      I think the bigger issue here is we all know how unreliable the F train is in general. If we were told to backtrack 2 stops knowing the trains going back – and then forward – would both be on time it would be one thing, but when the train to take you back 2 stops arrives after 10 minutes, then you wait at Church another couple, then you crawl through the tunnel you can easily tack on 20 minutes to your commute everyday until May! And since you have to plan around the worst case scenario when traveling the F it means you have to build in the worst-case no matter what because you know it will get you if you don’t.

      If the F wasn’t so wildly erratic it wouldn’t matter so much, but given the reality on the ground I can understand why commuters aren’t too thrilled. If the MTA could guarantee no more than 5 minutes wait time to backtrack and no more than 5 minutes wait at church followed by a normal-speed trip through the express tunnel I don’t think there would be an issue, but something tells me that promise won’t be forthcoming.

    • John

      This is the most overblown story in the neighborhood in years, with whiney blog entries everywhere! A few extra minutes to work for a couple months is not a big deal. The MTA is doing a major rehab on the neighborhood’s existing infrastructure, which one would normally consider to be a good thing.

      For the record, I walked an extra couple blocks to Church Avenue this morning….and I need the exercize!

    • RJGNYC

      @John:

      It’s not really just a few extra minutes for everyone.

      First, take into account the age population for a lot of Kensington. Elderly individuals can’t just always take a short jog to another train stop, even though I could. Along with that, you’re not just waiting a possible 5-15 minutes for one train, but instead 10-30 for TWO trains. That also doesn’t take into account the overcrowding at certain train stations that will happen as a result of this. By having larger numbers of uses enter and exit the train at fewer stops, it causes congestion which only contributes to longer delays. I think everyone’s had an experience where an F became a G during rush hour, and it is very time consuming to have a large number of people exit the train all at once, not to mention the time it takes for them all to enter an entirely new train.